Japan Decides Its Most Popular Onigiri | @AbroadinJapan #243
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0:00 They got rid of all the seats.
0:02 Yeah.
0:01 And they did up all the windows with like artwork of food.
0:05 They did not do that.
0:06 Oh, what?
0:06 So, the actual outside of the train.
0:08 Food doesn't need a view out the window, does it?
0:10 Just sits there.
0:12 Wow.
0:12 Hello and welcome to the Abroad Japan podcast.
0:14 Probably the best way of learning about
0:16 life in Japan without actually being in Japan.
0:18 I'm your host, Chris Broad,
0:19 joined as always by England's top Japan enthusiast, Mr.
0:23 Pete Donaldson.
0:24 Pete, tell the devil how you doing?
0:25 What's going on?
0:26 I'm good, Chris.
0:26 You got a lot of drinks on the table.
0:28 very very well watered this time around.
0:31 Water.
0:31 I've got some fizzy caffeine filth.
0:34 You Yes.
0:34 You just you just hosed down a caffeine drink
0:37 and unnamed because they were were not sponsoring the channel.
0:40 So, they're not going to have the mention.
0:42 We're not going to tell tell say who it is.
0:44 Yeah.
0:44 The secret's not getting out.
0:45 I'm depressed.
0:46 Pete, on the way in.
0:48 What?
0:47 I was like listening to some radio stuff, right?
0:50 Radio stuff.
0:50 Yeah.
0:50 I was like flicking through
0:51 LBC or something.
0:52 Yeah, it was LBC.
0:53 I was flicking through and the radio presenter was called Nick Ferrari.
0:57 Yeah.
0:57 What a great name.
0:58 Why can't I be Chris Ferrari?
1:00 Yeah.
1:00 I mean, is that his real name?
1:01 I think if you I feel like it isn't.
1:04 I feel like it is.
1:05 I don't think anybody I mean is an Italian name as a Ferrari.
1:08 He's just he's just like a grumpy British man.
1:10 He's a grumpy British lion.
1:11 Yeah.
1:11 He used to So, I used to work in that I
1:13 used to work in that I used to work in that building.
1:14 And um he's Yeah.
1:17 Well, you've met Nick a man called Nick Ferrari.
1:19 Nick Ferrari.
1:20 Yeah.
1:20 It sounds like Pete Dawson.
1:21 Why can't you be like Pete Mustad?
1:23 Who's the Cruz?
1:24 I'd be Donaldson Century.
1:26 Peter Century.
1:27 That's who I would be.
1:28 I think I should change my name to something good.
1:30 To something good.
1:31 Chris Empire.
1:31 Chris Empire.
1:32 Chris.
1:33 No, I think Chris accept.
1:34 That's Chris Huittson from Empire.
1:36 You can't you can't defeat his name.
1:37 He's Chris Empire.
1:38 Um, yeah.
1:39 I mean, I think uh yeah, he's he's a he's a funny bloke.
1:41 He's one of those kind of men who just I don't know how
1:44 you get up in the morning and just have such vinegar for the world.
1:48 Do you know what I mean?
1:49 Like I know that's kind of your job.
1:50 you know, all of the kind of um you know, Fox News guys,
1:53 you get up and you just I don't have it in me.
1:58 I want to be I want to be happy.
1:59 I want to be having a good time.
2:01 Yeah, but you're lucky, right?
2:02 Cuz you're leftwing.
2:02 If you ever got into political radio stuff,
2:06 you could stick to blah blah blah left stuff, right?
2:09 I'm so Because I'm in the middle.
2:10 I don't know.
2:11 I'm like, it doesn't really work.
2:12 You've got to be left or right.
2:14 No, but that's where it gets fun.
2:15 But do you not think that like the leftwing
2:17 people probably have more anger in their righteous anger?
2:23 I would suggest because a lot of the stuff that a lot
2:25 of the stuff that they get angry about is genuine human rights violations.
2:29 What do you mean you want clean water?
2:30 What do you mean you want
2:32 What do you mean you want
2:33 transport the work?
2:33 You know, you want basic healthcare.
2:35 Yeah.
2:36 __] commie.
2:39 You got to commit to either side with a name like Nick Ferrari.
2:41 I just I think I wish I had a name like that.
2:44 radio radio DJ names.
2:46 There was a DJ called Roberto on the Capital um FM station back in the day.
2:52 Right.
2:51 And who's the fella?
2:52 Who's the singer?
2:53 Right.
2:53 Here's here's a question for you.
2:54 Um I will be your hero, baby.
2:56 Who sang that?
2:58 Enrico and Glacia.
2:59 Yes.
3:00 Is he the son?
3:01 Sean's the dad.
3:02 Enrico is the son.
3:03 Julio Glac is the dad.
3:05 Enrique.
3:05 So the son um sort of said to Roberto
3:08 Roberto like um good thanks for interviewing me.
3:11 Had a good interview at the Capital Ball.
3:13 Jingle Bell, whatever you call it.
3:14 And have you got are you from Italy originally?
3:17 And he went, "That's just a stage name, mate." And he said, "Okay,
3:21 so so your family comes from Italy." And he goes,
3:23 "No, my name's like something or other." Um,
3:26 and you you do get given and and I knew a guy who
3:30 um uh his manager told him that his name was too Jewish, Rick Cutler.
3:34 Um, and he became Rick Shaw.
3:37 And and it is Cutler.
3:38 I mean, Rick Shaw is a ridiculous silly name because it's Rick Shaw.
3:41 I'm going to be called Julio Ferrari.
3:44 Yeah, but I just don't think I just think Cutler's a particularly Jewish name.
3:46 It just doesn't really jump out at me like that.
3:48 But yeah, I think people change the names all the time.
3:50 I think um is your name actually Pete Dawson?
3:54 It's the only names I've got unfortunately.
3:55 Yeah, I was having an argument with the bank
3:57 uh is it Coinbase Coin the stable coins and stuff.
4:02 Um I wanted to take some money out of my account and uh they were
4:05 saying you you I cannot put
4:07 this on your HSBC card because your names are different.
4:10 Oh, really?
4:11 From the Coinbase account and my account.
4:13 I was like, the only names I have is Peter Donaldson.
4:16 They're the only names I'm going to use.
4:18 And I looked on both and they were the same.
4:19 They were just trying to get trying to get out of me.
4:21 They were trying to get some bloody
4:23 um transaction instant transaction fees out of me.
4:25 Absolute scumbags.
4:27 And then and then I went on their helpline and good god,
4:31 if you find like a real person on those things, they talk like an AI nowadays.
4:36 It's absolutely imperceptible differences between AI
4:39 and a person who just basically
4:40 copies and pastes um the featur
4:42 frequently asked questions into your[ __] timeline.
4:44 Outrageous.
4:44 I hate it.
4:46 Sucks.
4:46 I hate modern life.
4:47 And you've got to go back to Japan and if
4:48 you want to get something out of the bank,
4:50 you got to turn up and fill out in a lot of forms.
4:52 Can you imagine how many forms are in front of your door?
4:56 Is anyone looking after your house?
4:57 Is they are they going to be filing away all of the bits and bobs?
5:00 Just banking in Japan is Oh, it just gives me depression.
5:03 The heebie-jebies.
5:04 Like I I remember the one cuz you got to have this the Hanko stamp, right?
5:08 I got a little stamp and I have to whack it.
5:09 How do you get rid of that?
5:10 Yeah.
5:10 They tried to get rid of it cuz it's not
5:13 1953 and then uh the there was like big hank big
5:18 big hank big farmer.
5:19 Get rid of the wooden the wooden rubber.
5:21 Genuinely it was like this is our culture.
5:23 We're not getting rid of this.
5:25 And I'm like I'm all for like retaining aspects of culture that are good.
5:29 Let us stamp let us stamp our little fake passport at a train station.
5:32 I think it's a bar.
5:33 Well, initially I was like, "Ah, yeah.
5:35 Stamp with my name on."[ __] yeah.
5:36 This is power.
5:37 This is And then you forget it every time you go and do anything.
5:41 So if you go in the bank,
5:42 if you're going to have it like integrated into your phone
5:44 or something like a little sort of hanko stamp glued to your phone
5:48 could be somebody could nick it and steal it.
5:51 So it's like having a signature on the back of your phone.
5:53 In fact, that is the flaw with the hanko stamp.
5:54 Cuz if somebody steals it, they've got your[ __] signature.
5:59 Yeah.
5:58 Need to know it.
5:59 They can't forge it.
6:00 It's literally a stamp.
6:01 Could you have it installed in your hand in resin like underneath the skin?
6:05 I mean that would be cool.
6:06 Like ghost in the shell someone and hanker them in the face.
6:09 Ghost in the shell meets Hank.
6:10 Spank or hankor bang.
6:13 No.
6:13 And so they tried to get rid of it.
6:15 Then they gave up and now they're still there.
6:17 And that's the story of Hanko.
6:19 And that's the story of Hanko.
6:20 And I I always forget it.
6:21 I always go in
6:23 the bank staff go ballistic.
6:25 Bankcoy sh if I go in there.
6:29 I always forget it and the staff go like crazy and uh
6:33 is there any way around it?
6:34 Do you always need it?
6:35 Just kind of like
6:35 I suspect in a farm there's some banks that probably don't require it.
6:40 Yeah.
6:40 Unfortunately, I got like a bank when I was in uh Yamagata.
6:44 Yeah.
6:43 And it's like a really local bank.
6:45 Like in Japan actually it's quite interesting.
6:46 In the UK we have like six big banks that roll, you know, rule the show.
6:50 In Japan, there's like dozens because they have a lot smaller localized banks
6:56 like the one in um that film um about the beautiful life uh
7:01 where he goes there was a run on the banks
7:02 and everyone there a very small old timey bank
7:05 the money and Joe's house and Jim's house that guy it's like that.
7:10 Yeah,
7:10 but cuz it's like it's like a town the town has their own bank.
7:13 I don't know if it's good or bad.
7:15 No,
7:15 probably good because they won't they won't like gamble
7:18 it away like 2008 and have a global financial crisis.
7:21 I feel like them having less money is more of a risk.
7:25 I just do Chris.
7:26 Well, anyway, I I
7:28 join the bank of Peter.
7:29 I will look after your money.
7:30 I suggest post wedding blown to bits.
7:34 Let me and I and if I buy Connor a train ticket on that really expensive train,
7:39 well, that's just what'll happen.
7:41 A train ticket on the that ridiculous train probably
7:43 cost more than all the money in the bank.
7:45 That's a good point actually.
7:46 Bank of
7:47 ridiculous.
7:48 But if I had money, I know how I'd spend it.
7:51 I know how I would spend it.
7:52 I would spend it on this week's power spot.
7:56 Power spot of the week.
8:04 It's time for power spot of the week.
8:05 Time for power spot of the week.
8:06 This is a new section of the show where I tell you somewhere that's good.
8:09 Yeah.
8:10 or not good.
8:11 And you have to decide.
8:13 We really need to work on this description.
8:14 If you want to go then Japanese,
8:19 it's somewhere that changes you,
8:20 somewhere that makes you feel refreshed, alive, re-energized.
8:24 Yeah.
8:23 Last week we had the worst museum in the world,
8:27 which I was very much into.
8:28 That's a big thumbs up from me.
8:30 Babarosi Hakar Museum in Izzy.
8:32 This week, uh, it's it's it's it's a statue.
8:37 It's a statue.
8:38 Not just any statue,
8:41 right?
8:40 When it was built, it was the tallest statue on the entire planet back in 1991.
8:46 1991's tallest statue.
8:47 And it's in Sai.
8:49 And it's the Sendai die cannon.
8:52 Don.
8:52 It's 100 meters tall.
8:54 You can go inside it.
8:55 And the first time I saw it, I was in Saii.
8:57 I was driving around.
8:58 Nobody had told me about it.
8:59 And I looked over the distance.
9:00 There's a big mountain
9:02 and there was just what looked like
9:03 the[ __] Stay Puff Sugar Man from like Ghostbusters.
9:08 You must have thought it was the end of the world.
9:09 I was like genuinely like that's what is that?
9:11 Are we about to It was in the 90s as well when Power Rangers was at its peak.
9:17 Yes.
9:18 He warned me about it and you just see
9:19 like the skyline of like towers and apartment blocks going
9:22 and then just a massive die cannon
9:24 and uh it was built Yeah.
9:26 built in the' 90s.
9:27 Uh apparently somebody basically had a bit too much money.
9:31 Right.
9:31 There's a lot of like depending on who I ask the story is always different and
9:36 the story goes somebody had a bit too much money.
9:40 Yeah.
9:40 In the economic bubble in the 80s, right?
9:42 When Japan was flushed with money.
9:44 Uh and this statue was,
9:48 you know, meant to be part of a huge
9:49 resort and amusement complex on this sort of mountain, right?
9:53 And then the bubble burst, the money ran out.
9:56 Yeah.
9:56 And then it just sort of sits there now awkwardly right
9:59 in a sort of crappy looking park.
10:02 And it is a really bizarre thing, but you can go inside it.
10:05 I wouldn't recommend it.
10:07 Why?
10:07 Cuz you go inside.
10:08 It's lovely in there.
10:08 I've seen
10:09 Well, it's got 12 stories and eight uh 108 Buddhist statues.
10:13 The idea is you can see all the statues.
10:15 So, it's a lot of statues inside a big statue.
10:18 Yeah.
10:17 Like a Kinder Surprise.
10:19 No, Russian doll.
10:20 It's the world's biggest surprise.
10:22 Yeah.
10:22 And then you climb up to the top and then you get like a view of the city,
10:26 but it's through like prison grates.
10:28 These like little bars you have to like press your face up against.
10:31 Yeah.
10:31 I think people would probably jump out, wouldn't they?
10:34 Probably.
10:34 Probably.
10:34 But
10:35 yeah, from a distance it does look very cool.
10:36 There's always photos of the Sendai Dannon
10:40 uh looking like sort of this crazy anomaly.
10:44 Um
10:44 there's a bigger one these days, I think, down in Ibaraki.
10:49 But this is the AG.
10:50 Why have I never seen this before?
10:52 Have you been to Senti before?
10:53 Yes, a couple of times.
10:56 Blocked out.
10:57 Why didn't you show me it?
10:58 Well, it's been blocked out by skyscrapers.
11:00 In the same way Paul's Cathedral in London's
11:03 slowly being eroded by skyline, the Sendai Dicon is is being
11:08 concealed behind towers.
11:09 Yeah.
11:10 Um but what there's a from the Sai Castle park overlooking the city,
11:15 a park in which there is no castle
11:17 apart from a couple of bricks to survive the fire.
11:21 You can see just this incredible view,
11:23 this sweeping vista of of Sendai suddenly punctuated by this
11:28 bright white light towering above.
11:30 And it is quite a sight.
11:31 It is pretty cool.
11:33 Don't go inside it.
11:34 Look upon it from a distance.
11:35 Heck, get quite quite close to it, but don't pay the fee.
11:38 This is not a great This is not a great
11:39 um view out the window out the little grit prison bars.
11:42 You can stick your Fujif film through it.
11:43 The power spot comes from being near being near it.
11:46 Okay.
11:46 Not going in it.
11:47 The power gets too strong then.
11:49 It does.
11:50 It does look as do the Yeah, we we'll put a picture of the inside.
11:53 It looks nice.
11:54 If you're watching on YouTube, you'll have footage of how spot now.
11:57 If you're listening, my description is better than video.
12:00 Uh but uh what are you thinking?
12:02 Sendai die cannon.
12:03 Does it get the Pete Donaldson seal of approval?
12:06 It's gone down.
12:07 down.
12:08 What?
12:08 Couldn't give a toss, mate.
12:09 Calm down.
12:09 Couldn't give a toss about your your big white boy.
12:13 Even though you've seen it.
12:14 Even though I've seen it.
12:15 Look, I like the idea of um folly.
12:19 I love a grand design when when a man um divorces his wife
12:22 cuz he's just got two thinks he can manage a you know,
12:26 a conversion of a lighthouse in Scotland.
12:29 Well, it the local Many locals don't like it
12:32 because they feel like it has no real religious merit.
12:36 Yeah.
12:36 Yeah, it's like I got too much money.
12:38 I want to spend it on something.
12:39 Let's make famous.
12:40 What is it of?
12:41 Just a Buddhist.
12:42 Just a Buddhist.
12:43 It's a Buddhist god.
12:44 Goddess.
12:45 I think it's goddess.
12:46 I see.
12:47 Well, that's nice.
12:48 At least it's you know, bit of, you know,
12:50 female representation in the in the skyline.
12:53 I mean, I think too uh
12:56 we overlook like um interesting structures that have
13:00 been built under the guise of religion.
13:02 Like in Japan, there's quite a few statues like this.
13:04 There's the one in uh Fukuoka, the reclining Buddha
13:08 who looks like that.
13:09 That[ __] amazing statue built in the early '9s,
13:13 but a lot of people are like, "Ah, it's built in the last 20 years, 30 years.
13:15 It's kind of old."
13:17 It's it's got no real value.
13:19 But I think it does have value.
13:21 And I think the Sendai die has value.
13:23 He looks good from afar.
13:25 There's some good there's some amazing pictures from people like just
13:27 going down the street and there's massive ladies just in the sky.
13:30 Yeah.
13:31 But again weird a lot of statues maybe
13:34 in the 90s and I'm just saying quite a lot
13:36 lot of cooking kick around it
13:39 what's crazy about the dyan it's in this like park and it feels like pryat
13:43 like it's just like this really ragged park and I remember there was
13:46 like leaves and stuff growing up through the concrete and it felt like
13:50 this should this one day this statue will be sealed off and nobody's going in.
13:54 It does feel like
13:54 it will fall.
13:55 It's the Nackagin capsule tower of Sennai
13:58 stuff with asbestos from the' 90s probably is the '9s.
14:02 Thumbs down then for this passport.
14:03 Thumbs down.
14:04 But maybe if I see maybe if I saw I would be impressed by the scale of it.
14:07 And pictures never do these things justice today.
14:09 Going to see it from the Sendai Castle Park instead if you're in Sai.
14:13 But what is going on in Japan this week?
14:15 What is the news of the week?
14:17 Well, we've spoken quite recently about the oniri rice ball.
14:20 The the humble oniri rice ball.
14:22 It's a ball of rice.
14:23 They'll you might get a sour plum inside.
14:25 You might get some tuna mayonnaise.
14:27 Um you might just get something just a bit of salt, just a bit of soy.
14:30 What's crazy is it's simple, right?
14:31 But you just can't get them in the UK in a way that they're good.
14:34 They there was wasabi used to do one um and they were gross,
14:38 but they were at least an attempt at them.
14:40 Some of the Japanese um like sort of small
14:43 brand supermarkets will have a crack at them.
14:45 They always fall a fall to pieces.
14:47 I've been working on a video on like trying Japanese food
14:49 in the UK and like the rice is just[ __] M
14:52 I don't know if they're using Japanese rice and then[
14:54 __] up or if they're using different varieties of rice.
14:56 It's just storage.
14:57 We just don't run out of storage for we It's never served in decent time.
15:01 We don't like throwing stuff away.
15:02 I just We just don't have good rice cookers.
15:04 They need your rice cooker, mate.
15:06 You've got a rice cooker, right?
15:07 My Zoyerushi uh rice cooker.
15:10 Yes, we do.
15:10 Do you use it?
15:11 I do.
15:11 You use it quite a lot.
15:12 Yes.
15:13 Yeah.
15:13 Do you notice the rice is like Japanese rice?
15:16 It's like magic.
15:17 It is like a magic.
15:18 Chris,
15:18 do you put Japanese rice in it?
15:20 I put Japanese rice in it and I wash it.
15:22 I'm not
15:22 Does it actually taste like rice over in the in Japan then?
15:25 Yeah, I don't overs salt it to be honest,
15:27 which sometimes you can find in in Japan.
15:29 But um yeah, I I've started doing little, you know,
15:32 chucking a bit of meat in there, some soy sauce, some uh
15:35 some vegetable stock.
15:36 Rice cooker is not going to last very long, is it?
15:38 You could cook loads of stuff in a rice cooker.
15:40 If you like pound for pound, if you got limited space in your, you know,
15:43 you got one bedroom flat or something, get yourself rice cookers.
15:45 You can cook so many meals in it and it's they're relatively healthy.
15:48 You know, you can stew meat in it.
15:51 You can do all sorts of stuff.
15:52 It's like a little slow cooker.
15:53 We shall see.
15:54 So, there we go.
15:56 But, well, yes, the common garden on agiri, the rice balls.
15:58 Um, which ones are more popular though?
16:00 If you're going to Japan and you want to try the quintessential proper numero
16:05 uno um convenience store on agiri rice ball as judged by the Japanese people,
16:08 we've got the information for you.
16:10 Um, oniri rice balls.
16:11 A recent survey has revealed which variety is the most
16:14 popular among shoppers from the uh country's four big conveni chains.
16:17 the oniri association which sounds like
16:21 there's always an association for something
16:23 tax dodge uh collected who's paying for this um big rice
16:28 um in uh Declan Rice the footballer on the the honorary
16:31 association collected sales data for the full year of 2025 from 7-Eleven
16:34 family mart Lawson and mini stop uh rest in peace um
16:38 and the results show that while preferences vary a little bit
16:41 by store and customer age one clear favorite stands out across
16:44 the board the tuna mayonnaise on a giri was overwhelming the most
16:47 popular choice after all four across all four convenience store chains.
16:52 That creamy salty tuna mayonnaise combo wrapped in nori
16:55 hits the spot for rice ball fans everywhere.
16:57 Um and prices have risen across the board,
17:00 but um it hasn't dented their popularity.
17:03 each of the major um conveninis.
17:06 I've put the prices up,
17:07 but um some other family um family familiar favorites like
17:11 seaweed and salmon filled oni consistently rank in the top
17:14 three at several chains echoing broader trends in Japanese taste
17:17 where tuna and salmon are among the most beloved fillings.
17:21 There are so many different oniri flavors,
17:24 but they do like to stick to the classics and you do you can't
17:26 go wrong with the tuna mayonnaise because it's a little bit of the west.
17:30 It's a little bit of cream.
17:31 It's a little bit of uh little bit of coopy mayonnaise and uh Yeah,
17:35 just[ __] lot of rice.
17:36 It is comfortably the best one.
17:39 Yeah.
17:39 Is that just your western Is that just your western palette?
17:42 No.
17:42 No.
17:42 I do like the salmon row ones.
17:44 They got like nice I think it's called like sweet raw sort of
17:47 Yeah.
17:47 sweet salmon and salted salmon.
17:49 Sorry.
17:49 Um and some beef.
17:51 There's like a lot of beef ones these days.
17:53 It's good.
17:54 But honestly, nine times out of 10, I just go for tuna mayonnaise.
17:56 The last time I had a beef one, you were hiring a car in uh Tunamia.
18:04 You were you were you were um hiring a car and I was having
18:06 a beef and then Natsky um buttonhold me to get involved in his song.
18:12 Oh, sing his song.
18:13 How do I forget that song?
18:15 Chicken Family Chick.
18:19 Um
18:19 I there's an interesting story this week though
18:21 that I apparently Japan's running out of lorry drivers,
18:26 right?
18:26 freight drivers.
18:28 Yeah.
18:28 And one of the bullet trains,
18:30 one of the Shinkansen on JR East going between like Tokyo and Morio.
18:33 Tokyo and Hokkaido
18:35 has been repurposed solely for shipping like food.
18:40 Oh, like a car like a food cargo.
18:42 Is it refrigerator?
18:43 It's the first all freight shin concept.
18:47 Oh,
18:46 so while the UK is still trying to build a[ __] highspeed train for humans,
18:51 we just got too many.
18:53 We're too good.
18:54 I bet it's the Nori.
18:55 Just get that Nomi.
18:56 No, it's not the Nomi.
18:57 It's the JR East one.
18:58 It's the Hayabusa train, right?
19:01 And uh like there's a there's a service called the Hakobium.
19:05 Hakobium.
19:06 And um basically food needs to get to Tokyo quickly, right?
19:10 With like fresh seafood and so they ship it down to Tokyo.
19:14 That makes perfect sense.
19:15 Special bullet train.
19:16 That makes perfect sense.
19:17 Surely.
19:17 That's great.
19:18 Yeah.
19:18 Could you stack them in?
19:19 Would that take more?
19:20 I mean it would more than a lorry but I imagine
19:22 the running costs are a bit more expensive lorry versus massive shrimp.
19:26 I wonder.
19:27 Yeah, it's a great idea though.
19:28 And basically they've got rid of all
19:29 the It was a a normal passenger carrying train.
19:33 They got rid of all the seats.
19:35 Yeah.
19:34 And they did up all the windows with like artwork of food.
19:38 They did not do that.
19:39 Oh, what?
19:39 So the actual outside of the train
19:41 food doesn't need a view out the window, does it?
19:42 Just sits there.
19:43 Well, yeah.
19:44 That would sort of I guess that would
19:45 warm up the train um exponentially needlessly.
19:47 But I mean, I don't know why you would bother putting a livery or livery,
19:50 I never know how you say that word, on the side of it.
19:52 Cuz they love their Hello Kitty trains and players, don't they, Japanese?
19:55 So, like, why did they need to advertise the fact
19:57 that they had a lot of food in it?
19:58 Just just run it and just make it a non-passenger train.
20:01 It's not going to stop at any station, so don't worry about it.
20:03 Well, I can't think of any I can't think of any
20:05 bullet trains that actually have any freight carriages at all.
20:09 No.
20:09 Is there not?
20:09 They don't take post or anything.
20:11 They do a post run.
20:12 Not that I know of.
20:13 Oh, it's interesting.
20:15 Yeah.
20:15 So, this is a pretty big deal.
20:17 like a dedicated bullet train for freight.
20:19 You get your, you know, your sushi.
20:21 I've got the wrong train.
20:22 Started eating on a giri or crab claws on.
20:25 They open up the train, all the food's gone.
20:27 Somebody's eating it all.
20:28 Yeah.
20:28 I mean, it's crazy.
20:29 The uh there's a place called Orma
20:32 in North Almory where all the most expensive tuna in the world comes from.
20:34 Like the one that the tuna king
20:37 Kioshi Kimura bid for back in January.
20:40 It was like what $3.1 million for the tuna.
20:43 But that tuna, it's super duper fresh.
20:45 Amazing.
20:46 Put on the bullet train, get down to Tokyo.
20:49 Yeah.
20:49 Fire out the front window.
20:50 Rock it down the rocket down from uh from the north.
20:54 It's pretty cool cuz that journey would normally take a few days or two days.
20:58 Now it takes three or four hours to get you the best tuna.
21:01 I mean that's amazing.
21:01 I mean like there presumably food up in I don't know what direction that one
21:04 goes in but like uh yeah the the tuna from the colder areas will get
21:08 the tuna from the colder areas.
21:09 tuna from the cold areas.
21:10 We'll get to the um and I can have my dinner and I
21:12 have my a tuna a tuna train is wafting in from the east.
21:16 Well, it just it's just sad.
21:17 It's like the UK is not doing anything.
21:22 Yeah.
21:22 Well, they are building a train, but it's like 400 years behind schedule
21:26 and it's like hurry up.
21:27 I want to get my I want to get I don't even know
21:30 what food I'd want to get from North England in 3 hours, though.
21:33 I just like I just like the the I just think the needless I mean I guess
21:37 they're part of the blinds that have kind
21:38 of closed out the uh closed out the the windows.
21:42 I just don't know why they put pictures
21:44 on pictures of the food that they've got inside.
21:47 And it doesn't seem like they've got a lot of doesn't
21:49 seem like they they're making the most of all of the space.
21:52 One might suggest
21:53 uh the trolley just like I mean why do you need that middle section?
21:57 like the sort of there's there's two sort of parallel
22:02 um sort of corridors of of of of stuff.
22:05 Why don't you put one down the middle?
22:06 Access the food easier when you get locked inside.
22:08 You don't need to you shouldn't need to you
22:09 just unload the whole train at once presumably.
22:11 I don't know how it works.
22:12 It's pretty cool though.
22:13 I It'll be interesting to see how this pans out to be honest.
22:15 Well, I hope that pan food.
22:17 Um I like that.
22:18 Um they I I feel like this is the test run and I feel like I mean presumably
22:24 this is also because we're looking at the um
22:26 the video now and it doesn't look like it's refrigerated.
22:29 Doesn't look like the actual thing is refrigerated.
22:30 Well, you don't need to.
22:31 It's only if it's only 2 or 3 hours.
22:34 You need to refrigerate stuff if it's two or three nonsense.
22:37 All right, fine.
22:38 Just open the open the doors.
22:40 Let the let the blast the cold blast just blast through.
22:43 Fascinating.
22:44 Pretty cool.
22:44 Pretty cool.
22:45 I would like that immensely.
22:46 And the work continues.
22:47 No talking.
22:49 No talking on the food train.
22:51 The work continues on the other train, the mag lev train.
22:54 It's coming.
22:55 Is it?
22:55 Just get ready.
22:56 Don't believe you.
22:57 Put it in your calendar.
22:57 2037, right?
22:59 Oh, 2037.
23:01 How much is that going to?
23:02 That's going to be 10 grand.
23:03 That's going to be a con fancy train from Tuya in 40 minutes, whatever it is.
23:08 It's going to be cool.
23:09 The reason it was held up is um there was
23:11 a politician in Shizuoka and part of the mag lev train,
23:15 the magnetic levitation train goes from Tokyo to Nagoya.
23:18 Right.
23:19 Right.
23:19 And it cuts through like Yamanashi in the mountains.
23:21 Is that And it went through Shizuoka for like 6 km.
23:25 Uh but there was no train station.
23:27 So Shiza didn't reap the benefits of that, right?
23:29 And they were like, well, you build a train station for us.
23:32 And they were like, no, it makes no sense.
23:34 They're like, well, we're not going to let you build it.
23:36 We're not going to let you build it.
23:36 Right.
23:36 And they held up the whole thing for 4 years because that
23:39 did they get the station in the end the guy who the politician that blocked it.
23:45 He made a speech making fun of farmers
23:47 and he got he got the hook didn't he didn't they
23:50 and and they were like they threw him out
23:52 of office and then someone else came in who wasn't
23:54 a bail end and they were like yeah just
23:56 build it get on with it and uh ridiculous bureaucracy.
23:59 I'm amazed the Japanese government allowed the one of the most important
24:03 rail links of the future to be held up by a politician.
24:06 Yeah, I mean it seems like they uh I mean good but I mean I guess good
24:09 on the politician for uh you know looking
24:11 after their what exactly what local politicians should be.
24:13 True.
24:14 I mean they argued that the bullet
24:15 train would go through the mountains and affect
24:17 the water that runs through the mountains
24:19 and um leads to cultivation of green tea.
24:24 Right.
24:23 Of which Shizor is one of the biggest exports.
24:25 Right.
24:25 It feels like I'm I'm on the side of uh the the farmer the farmer upsetter.
24:30 The farmer upsetter.
24:31 The farmer upsetter.
24:32 I think he's he's well within his rights to fight.
24:34 I can't remember what he said.
24:35 It was something like it was just a load of peasants or something.
24:40 Yeah.
24:40 And I can't remember exactly what his words were, but
24:43 that's astonishing.
24:43 Oh dear.
24:44 Bullet train's coming.
24:45 The mag train is coming.
24:46 2037.
24:47 Put it in the calendar.
24:49 Yeah.
24:48 Uh time for speedy Japanese.
24:50 Oh no.
24:56 I'm scared of learning things.
24:58 Do you remember the last expression I taught you?
25:01 No.
25:01 The monkey one.
25:02 __] sake.
25:02 The monkey one.
25:02 I'm looking at my notes.
25:03 Saroki keru even monkeys fall from trees.
25:07 Su is a good one to remember.
25:09 Su monkey.
25:11 Yeah.
25:10 Not to be confused with s meaning plate.
25:13 Do not put a su on a sal please.
25:16 A sal.
25:18 Uh given the the story this week or the the power
25:21 spot this week was about the Sendai die cannon
25:23 statue built with massive amounts of money, great tax expense.
25:27 Uh I figured the word the phrase would be useful uh involves rich people, right?
25:32 Most notably okal mochi.
25:34 Okalami.
25:35 Now okalochi.
25:36 So okali means money.
25:38 Yes.
25:38 Mochi means to hold on to.
25:39 Ah the people who hold on to money, the greedy, the rich person.
25:42 I see.
25:43 Okanimi.
25:45 And uh
25:46 why is that mochi related to the mochi squished up?
25:49 No rel.
25:49 No relation.
25:51 Squishes together, isn't it?
25:52 You could probably start around or kimchi.
25:54 You could have like money in the mochi.
25:56 Like a little tinder egg.
25:58 You chew the mochi and you find some coins.
26:00 Coin.
26:00 Yeah.
26:00 A like a um figgy pudding.
26:02 Enough people already die eating mochi every year.
26:04 It's the most dangerous food.
26:05 Oh yeah, they chalk, aren't they?
26:06 Yeah.
26:06 Might as well go the whole hog and put some money in there, right?
26:08 Surprise.
26:09 Hogs in it.
26:10 But uh means like the rich do not quarrel.
26:18 Oh.
26:19 So means rich person, right?
26:22 To fight.
26:25 Yeah.
26:24 Uh and means like they don't.
26:26 Right.
26:27 Okay.
26:27 kind of
26:29 the rich do not quarrel.
26:30 The rich are smart, so they don't bother fighting with anyone.
26:33 They just get on with it.
26:35 So, it's basically just like wealthy people don't
26:38 Well, if people watch the world, they don't bother quarreling.
26:40 Yeah, it's they're above them.
26:42 They're
26:42 above them.
26:43 They believe.
26:43 Right.
26:43 I see.
26:44 I feel like that works maybe in Japanese culture.
26:46 Don't know if it works in the West.
26:48 In the West,
26:49 the rich just cause problems.
26:51 The rich do quarrel, I would say.
26:53 Nor would suggest.
26:54 Yeah.
26:54 Uh but, you know, useful words to know.
26:56 Karimi and Kasuru means to like fight to quarrel,
27:02 right?
27:04 And su means to not.
27:05 So ah well there you go.
27:08 The rich
27:09 I just love the idea that you're going to one day
27:10 be in Japan at a bar and just throwing out weird proverbs.
27:15 Somebody's going to absolutely threaten to punch my face off.
27:17 You'll they'll serve you some suitor.
27:24 And then you'll be like, you know, all the words.
27:32 Yeah.
27:31 And there'll be more proverbs to come in the weeks ahead.
27:35 By the end of this series, he will be so good.
27:38 So many proverbs.
27:39 I know.
27:40 I'd look like a really I'd look like
27:42 a either a really wise man or an old person.
27:45 You decide.
27:47 You decide.
27:47 An aloof old person.
27:48 Ironically, ironically that um you know that little um sort
27:52 of phrase do does make you feel like you're above everything.
27:55 Do you know what I mean?
27:57 Knowing that knowing proverbs and stuff
28:02 I've I've seen this all before.
28:05 And with that with that useful phrase in your new arsenal of vocabulary,
28:09 we turn our attention to the fax machine.
28:14 Wow.
28:16 What have we got this week in the fax machine?
28:17 Mr.
28:17 Nson, fill us in.
28:18 We got a message from Brin from Perth, WA, Washington.
28:24 Is that in Australia?
28:26 I don't know.
28:27 Uh, good day, Carrot.
28:28 Top Chris and Paulolly Shaw.
28:29 Rude.
28:30 Uh, we just got back from a well overdue visit to Japan for my nephew's wedding.
28:33 The trip included finding a new appreciation for the lovely city of Yokohama.
28:37 Good news.
28:38 And getting hopelessly lost in Shabuya Station on our way to Lost Bar.
28:41 Towards the end, you should draw on the floor.
28:45 Just a big arrow.
28:46 Big arrow.
28:47 Um towards the end of our trip, we took the train out to Narita and we were
28:50 the only people in the car by three young ladies from Korea.
28:54 As with all uh limited express services in Japan,
28:57 the announcement came over telling anyone with a non-reserved ticket that may
29:01 have to give up their seat for someone who would reserved a seat.
29:03 Considering how empty the service was,
29:05 we could have easily saved a few books by not paying for the reserved seats.
29:07 But we already had.
29:09 When the conductor came through though,
29:10 he immediately got very angry with the Korean ladies,
29:12 telling them they should be in this car
29:14 and we they didn't have the reserved seats.
29:16 This clearly contradicted every sign and announcement
29:18 in English when you purchase your tickets.
29:20 Sure enough, after he told them off,
29:22 the same announcement came through the train
29:24 in different languages with the English
29:25 one letting non-reserved ticket holders know they
29:28 would have to give up their seats.
29:30 Was it bad translation or could the conductor be
29:33 on a power trip because he didn't like the foreigners?
29:35 What do you think happened?
29:36 Have you encountered something like this where translating
29:38 truck instructions contradicted what was being stated in Japanese?
29:41 Keep up the good work, Brin from Perth.
29:44 So, I think the English um version was more favorable to the tourists
29:49 than the Korean version that they busted out or the Japanese rather.
29:53 So, the Japanese version of the don't sit there
29:57 mate um thing was favorable to the English version,
30:01 sorry, non-favorable to the English version.
30:02 The English version said roughly sit where you
30:04 want and the Japanese version said don't sit there.
30:08 Um but because they didn't speak Japanese, they didn't know.
30:11 Except in this case, they did know.
30:13 I see.
30:14 Yeah, that is a bit odd.
30:15 I don't understand what happened there.
30:18 I you know, if if you were playing, you'd be like,
30:21 you wouldn't sort of say they probably wouldn't favor the English.
30:23 I mean, even Natsky and I got confused recently
30:26 when uh uh we we got a train from we did the Nakendo thing, right?
30:31 We hiked for three days, died.
30:33 Nakasendo.
30:33 Nakadendo.
30:36 Nakasendo.
30:36 Nasendi.
30:36 And we did that.
30:37 It was amazing.
30:38 Then we got the train to Tokyo.
30:39 It wasn't good because it was 3 hours
30:40 and there was no[ __] seats on the entire train.
30:43 Yeah.
30:45 Yi was very angry and smashed up a bin, right?
30:47 And I I share that sentiment rather well, but it was really really confusing.
30:52 The guy was like, "All reserve seating,
30:55 but you can just take whatever seats you want,
30:57 but god forbid if somebody arrives,
30:59 you reserve that seat." And we were like,
31:00 "Uh." We got on the train and there was a three light system.
31:03 It was like red light, green light, yellow light.
31:05 Yeah.
31:06 Is it as confusing as the taxi red lights?
31:07 It's It's worse.
31:08 It's so much worse.
31:10 So Natki and I It was like if it's a red light, you can sit in it.
31:14 It's not reserved.
31:15 Sit.
31:16 Yeah.
31:16 Live, live, love, be happy.
31:18 So we sat in the seat and Natki was like, "Ah, you got relieved."
31:24 Yeah.
31:23 He's like about to fall asleep.
31:25 And then the red light went to orange.
31:27 Oh.
31:27 And that booked the next somebody's coming on the train.
31:30 He's reserved it.
31:33 Yeah.
31:32 And so we're like, "Fuck." No.
31:34 His light went first and I was like good luck.
31:38 And then mine went sec seconds later and I was like[ __]
31:41 And so how exciting.
31:42 It's a real sort of sort of damic, isn't it?
31:44 It is.
31:44 And it's the sort of[ __] democ.
31:46 And then you go to the station, the light went green.
31:49 That meant move now or die.
31:52 Yeah.
31:51 We got out the seats.
31:52 The lucky people that reserved it came in, sat down.
31:55 This system was so annoy.
31:56 I think it was kind of annoying because I'd rather just stand
32:00 up at that point and not know what my grim fate is.
32:03 They could have LED readouts.
32:05 They've got enough money to do that.
32:06 I don't know what they could have done, but
32:08 Well, you have that in you have that in like most,
32:10 you know, the G&R G in this country.
32:13 All all the train all the longdistance trains have a little sign saying this is
32:17 reserved until Dagenham.
32:18 Reserved until where
32:19 so reserved until So I Yeah.
32:22 Oh, no.
32:22 Not reserved until Yeah.
32:23 So it just basically tells you you can sit here for this amount of time.
32:25 So you know exactly what So you're not constantly looking up.
32:27 Confusingly on like other trains in Japan, most other trains,
32:30 say the bullet train, you don't get that.
32:32 It's either reserved or non-reserved.
32:34 Right.
32:35 Right.
32:35 Right.
32:35 Okay.
32:35 Oh, so yeah, but that's that's just your seat.
32:37 Wasted space though, isn't it?
32:38 It's just your seat.
32:39 Yeah, but you're wasting space there because you've got
32:41 you've got reserved cars that may not all be reserved.
32:44 Even your liberal lefty nonsense.
32:46 Me and me and me.
32:47 Saving the planet.
32:48 Saving efficiency.
32:49 You want to save the planet.
32:50 I'm saving money.
32:50 I'm a capitalist.
32:51 Died in the wool.
32:53 Watch all.
32:54 You're right.
32:54 You're right there.
32:54 It is like it is a w it's a waste but it's also quite annoying when
32:57 you you've just sat down you're very happy
33:00 and the smile quickly gets eradicated from your face.
33:03 Uh we got one here from Mia who says hello Chris
33:06 and Pete here in the UK we have unmarked divisions and regional stereotypes.
33:10 The main one being northerners and southerners i.e.
33:13 northerners are friendly,
33:14 honest and salt of the earth while southerners are reserved,
33:17 rude, rushed and morio money orientated north and south here.
33:22 Uh, this is of course not always true,
33:24 but I wondered if there was an equivalent in Japan.
33:26 Interested to know.
33:27 Uh, Mia from the north.
33:29 Salt of the earth.
33:30 Oh, salt of the earth.
33:31 She's nice.
33:33 Yeah.
33:33 Uh, what do you think?
33:34 Um, yeah, we talk about this, haven't we?
33:36 Like the people in down in like Fuckwalker are like fun guys, aren't they?
33:40 That sort of cush sort of area.
33:42 They're sort of a lot more relaxed.
33:43 And I certainly you certainly feel that, but you often sort of think
33:45 is that just like if the fuckans lived in a much more busy city,
33:49 would they be quite as chilled out?
33:50 I don't know.
33:51 I've always found it friendlier there in the world.
33:55 I It's one of those things where I think there is a stereotype,
33:58 but it's accurate because in the north of Japan,
34:00 it is it's cold, it's it's windy, it's snowy, you go out less.
34:06 Whereas in Kyushu, in the south, in Fukuoka or Saka, there is no snow.
34:11 Yeah.
34:11 You just go out.
34:12 It's a lot more outdoorsy culture and a lot more sort of people just
34:15 seem to be a lot more easy and fun and friendly to talk to.
34:17 M and you know many of Japan's comedians come
34:20 from Osaka for that reason over say the north.
34:24 Uh so I find it is a stereotype.
34:26 I mean the stereotypes here this is on like the internet says Tokyo often
34:31 perceived as formal cold efficient serious sometimes
34:35 snobbish or sucker frequently stereotyped as loud, funny, friendly and direct.
34:39 Kyoto known for being sophisticated cultured but also passive aggressive.
34:45 rural areas like Tohoka labeled as slowpaced country bumpkins.
34:50 That's a good point.
34:51 My uh friend in Yamagata,
34:54 he hates Japanese TV cuz it makes them all look like savages.
34:59 Yeah, there's a in in in Yamagata historically there was a community of people
35:05 that ate like some grass or something like a a grass-based tea or something.
35:10 I can't remember.
35:11 And so whenever like the show cuts to like Yamagata,
35:14 it's like the people of Yamagata love grass and it's bollocks.
35:18 Don't be[ __] eat the grass.
35:20 It's just nonsense.
35:22 And uh but people it rubs them the wrong way.
35:26 Natki Natski is from that neck of the woods,
35:28 but he's basically like a guy from Tokyo.
35:31 Yeah.
35:31 So it's very delinquent.
35:32 In that case, it doesn't make sense.
35:34 But I find many of the stereotypes around
35:36 Osaka are true that people are a bit more,
35:40 you know, fun, rough around the edges, a bit more opinated.
35:43 The people I've met and I know generally fulfill that stereotype rather well.
35:48 The people from um from Tokyo are kimonoi.
35:52 Exactly.
35:52 Kimchi.
35:56 And finally, Steven says, "Hello, Chris.
35:58 After our 2024 once ina-lifetime dream trip to Japan,
36:02 my boyfriend and I have decided one simply wasn't enough.
36:06 Oh, one time.
36:07 Uh, we'll be heading back in late September, cycling the Shiman Army Kaido,
36:11 followed by a night over in Miaima Island,
36:13 where I'm planning on proposing to my boyfriend.
36:16 Oh, in secrets.
36:17 Whoa, steady, Steven.
36:19 What if your boyfriend listens, Stephen?
36:20 Uh, my plan was to wait until late evening to avoid the day
36:24 visitor crowds and ask the question in front of the Tory gate.
36:27 It's Kushima.
36:28 Is Mia Myima tourist hotspot nightmare though?
36:30 Is there anywhere you think might be quieter but equally as beautiful?
36:36 Any thanks Stephen?
36:38 I mean that's a cool place to do it after
36:40 the tourists have gone in the evening or the morning.
36:44 Yeah.
36:44 Uh the vibe changes big time on Miaima.
36:46 There's nothing to do, right?
36:47 It's all shut up apart from the isekai the izakaya pubs and the hotels.
36:51 But yeah, like you can go and have the entire shrine to yourself.
36:54 Yeah, I was there a year ago when my parents came over and
36:57 it's kind of trippy standing in front of, you know,
37:00 the most famous shrine in Japan,
37:02 but it's just you, your camera, a deer, and your friend Dave.
37:08 Pretty cool.
37:08 Yeah, it's a good place to propose, I think.
37:10 Yeah, I think um uh but I think technically uh administratively,
37:17 how do you keep someone there when there's nothing going on?
37:20 Do you know what I mean?
37:21 How do you stop?
37:22 You just stay the night.
37:23 Stay the night.
37:24 Can you go for a walk?
37:25 Go up.
37:25 No, I want to watch the telly.
37:26 You got to please go for a walk.
37:28 You can walk.
37:28 It's a lovely place to walk around at night.
37:30 Oh, it's really nice.
37:33 Yeah, it's a big spoon.
37:33 They got the biggest spoon in Japan there.
37:35 What?
37:35 The biggest spoon in Japan.
37:36 Why have you not saved that for the place to go?
37:39 Power spot.
37:40 Power spot.
37:40 It's got a big spoon for[ __] sake.
37:42 They claim to have invented the rice paddle on the island.
37:45 Right.
37:45 Okay.
37:45 I've looked into the claims and I don't really think they're true.
37:49 But anyway, big to commemorate the fact they
37:52 may or may not have invented a rice paddle.
37:55 They've built the biggest one on earth and it's very impressive.
37:57 Well, in the propose in front of that.
38:00 Well, there's plenty of like there's plenty of like
38:02 blogs that will sort of go through your you
38:04 know your your common or garden best places to to uh to to to pop the question.
38:10 Um Nijubashi Bridge Nijubashi Bridge in Tokyo.
38:14 Um mainly because though it's very easy to get to.
38:17 It's not as touristy as a lot of other places, but um it's very near the Have
38:23 you been to the intermedi intermediate tech museum at all?
38:29 What?
38:28 It's intermediate tech.
38:29 It's basically a little bit like the the museum that you spoke about last week,
38:32 but it's mainly it's kind of a c ironically because it will have a curator,
38:36 but a curate egg of a natural history museum.
38:40 There'll be like dinosaur bones, more dinosaur bones, a sarcophagus,
38:45 and then just some lenses from an old optician.
38:48 This is not some and gramophones.
38:50 Don't propose.
38:51 Well, don't propose there, but do it near the bridge.
38:52 And then afterwards, you can celebrate by looking at the old
38:54 gramophones in the intermediate tech museum.
38:57 Oh, it's a[ __] idea.
38:58 I'd say uh go to rabbit island.
39:01 It's near me anyway.
39:02 Nice.
39:02 Okay.
39:03 Yeah.
39:03 Do it in the chemical weapons lab.
39:04 Or do it stood in a pile of rabbit[ __] Do that.
39:08 Like get some rabbit food.
39:09 Put it down the ground.
39:10 Put your ring in there.
39:11 Oh, s over there.
39:12 Flopsy rolls off.
39:13 __] eating it.
39:14 __] Never mind.
39:15 It's going to have to wait.
39:16 Rabbit pie for dinner it is.
39:17 That'll be fun.
39:18 But no, do it.
39:19 Do it on me.
39:20 Do it somewhere.
39:21 Good.
39:23 Lovely.
39:22 And book a really nice so after a proposal you
39:25 can sit in the bathtub and look over the island.
39:28 Job done.
39:29 Is it?
39:29 Job done.
39:30 That is all for now though.
39:32 Best of luck to you, Steven.
39:33 If that is your real name.
39:34 I hope it's not.
39:36 If your partner listens, the jiv is up.
39:38 Keep the stories, questions, comments coming in to broadjapanodcast@gmail.com.
39:42 We'll be back next week to do all over again, guys.
39:44 But for now, have yourself a wonderful few
39:46 days and we'll see you right back here.
39:47 Do all over again on the Abro Japan podcast.
39:50 Bye for now.
39:52 Bye.