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0:00 Joining us now is American philanthropist and humanitarian activist Ahmed Khan

0:05 who has been working who has been traveling to Iran frequently

0:10 over the years has a lot of contacts in Iran

0:13 and several years ago was in was engaged in a fascinating kind

0:19 of interplay in which he helped to get some refugees

0:23 and I think people might have missed this news at the time

0:25 we can put up 8 10 refugees from Afghanistan you know

0:29 who who had worked with the United States while there into Iran

0:35 because they were having such a difficult time getting them

0:38 all out in time as the kind of American occupation was

0:43 collapsing and the Taliban was taking over the Washington Post reported

0:47 this is back in 2021 that you you kind of had

0:51 the idea wait a minute looking at a map here Iran

0:55 is a country that might actually be willing to help here

0:58 and as a result of that you developed you know contacts

1:01 in the kind of humanitarian space in in Iran which I will

1:05 which will be relevant to our conversation today but give us

1:09 give us the thumbnail version of that of that story were

1:12 you were you surprised that the Iranians were willing to be

1:16 helpful cuz you can you can imagine Iran like I think

1:19 most Americans would say well why would Iran help they you

1:23 know this is American occupation they're our enemies I presume they

1:27 would just tell us to get bent Yeah I mean that's

1:32 the corporate media you know story that they tell us and it's

1:36 just not true which is I mean obviously most of those reporters

1:40 have no idea what they're talking about they don't know

1:41 anything about Iran they've never been there they don't know any

1:44 Iranian people except for maybe some you know lunatics in shisha

1:48 joints in LA or Vancouver or something so what that was

1:53 was that was actually after the American withdrawal and as you

1:57 remember it was a uh it was a complete fiasco and disaster

2:00 and the reality is the Biden administration left behind uh many,

2:06 many uh people who actually worked for the United States

2:09 and risked their lives for the United States mission in Afghanistan.

2:13 They wind up taking some people who didn't do anything for the United States.

2:16 So, I had been over there and, you know,

2:20 had committed to get these people out um and I wasn't going

2:23 to give up even though the United States had already pulled out.

2:25 So, this is actually after the United States had pulled out

2:28 and sort of uh we went to Iran and they said,

2:31 "Sure." And we actually did it in the Iranian consulate in Herat,

2:34 Afghanistan toward the west of Afghanistan near the Iranian border.

2:38 And uh chartered a plane from Mashhad, Iran and, you know,

2:41 they gave the uh they gave the visas.

2:45 We flew them and now they're all either

2:46 in the United States or Canada and doing really, really well.

2:49 And, you know, it's uh it wasn't surprising

2:51 to me because that's what sort of diplomacy is.

2:54 And unfortunately right now we don't really have

2:56 any professional diplomats doing this kind of work.

2:59 We have, you know, sort of people

3:00 who develop mixed-use commercial properties and that's

3:03 not really relevant [clears throat] to uh

3:07 being peaceful and getting along with people.

3:09 I I think the Iranian government is always anxious to uh to find common ground.

3:17 I mean, who wants to be in war?

3:19 Like nobody literally wants to be in war.

3:21 Uh you know, among people.

3:22 I mean, certainly governments and, you know,

3:24 uh the uh weapons industry and then people

3:27 with real uh other agendas have their issues.

3:30 But for me it wasn't surprising and it was a great So,

3:34 you've you've been in war zones for the last

3:36 20 uh plus years everywhere from, you know,

3:39 Gaza to Rwanda to Ukraine and and beyond.

3:42 Based on the information that you have from your sources and travels,

3:46 um what is the uh what what is the situation in Iran and how would

3:51 you compare it to the the effort that the US has made to, you know,

3:57 annihilate the country, smash the economy, and, you know,

4:00 bring it to its knees to bring about a capitulation?

4:03 Well, I mean, the reality is most of the work I've done,

4:05 I think 90% of it has been in countries

4:07 the United States has invaded in wars of choice.

4:10 And I just sort of as an American go there

4:12 and try and do what an any individual could possibly do,

4:16 whether it's being humanitarian aid or reconstruct.

4:18 I've done everything you can imagine

4:20 in the Christian provinces of Nineveh in Iraq.

4:23 I rebuilt churches and rebuilt homes

4:25 of Christians that have been displaced by ISIS,

4:27 which happened as a result of the US invasion of Iraq.

4:30 I did the same things in Afghanistan.

4:32 In Syria, I actually evacuated Syrians who worked for US special forces whose

4:37 lives were in danger when US special forces uh came out of Syria.

4:42 So, I've done, you know,

4:43 sort of everything you can imagine in all these wars of choice,

4:47 but this literally is the worst one.

4:49 I mean, we were given absolutely no reason to do this.

4:54 You know, we were told that they're 2 weeks

4:57 away and 2 weeks away and I I apparently,

4:59 you know, US intelligence figured out that they're after the June bombings,

5:03 they were 9 to 12 months away if they so chose and there was a fatwa,

5:07 as you know, against pursuing a nuclear weapon

5:09 and apparently now they're still 9 to 12 months away.

5:13 So, what was achieved?

5:15 Uh we dropped over 30,000 bombs between

5:19 Operation Epic Fury and Roaring Lion, the Israelis.

5:22 I mean, these are giant bombs and missiles.

5:24 Um we killed children.

5:27 Uh we destroyed hospitals.

5:28 We destroyed schools.

5:29 So, essentially, we've done an incredible job of uniting the Iranian

5:34 people behind their government and behind their country before their government,

5:38 I would say, but behind, you know, sort of they're united now.

5:41 And this is something that's completely different than we've seen before.

5:46 Uh perhaps the Israelis' goal was regime change.

5:49 That was never going to happen.

5:50 Perhaps it was complete chaos.

5:53 You know, that was never going to happen either.

5:55 And I think apparently we've got good news today that epic fury is over.

5:59 So, I you know, I think it's maybe cause for celebration.

6:02 But in terms of thinking this through and doing this, I mean,

6:05 this is what happens when you have people who

6:07 have no idea about the country they're dealing with.

6:10 I mean, whoever are the decision makers are, I mean,

6:12 I'm sure none of them knows what a Shia is.

6:15 None of them knows that there are tens of millions of Iranians,

6:18 for better or worse, who are religious Shia and support their government.

6:22 Uh none of them know that actually from the protesters in January many

6:28 of them now are out protesting in in support of the government or you know,

6:31 they say in support of the country.

6:33 And so the the protesters in January were economic.

6:36 And they've understood now that that was a result of of sanctions,

6:40 of years and years of sanctions.

6:41 We've had sanctions on Iran since 1986.

6:44 We had them in '79 and '80 as a result of the hostage crisis.

6:48 We pulled them off and then Reagan started again.

6:49 President Reagan started again in '86.

6:51 I mean, they're debilitating, right?

6:53 And I think everybody in Iran knows that.

6:56 I I think you know, it's just it's just it basically

7:00 we've achieved the opposite of I think what we wanted to achieve.

7:03 Yeah, so I was going to ask about that question because

7:05 this is the rationale [clears throat] behind our Cuba policy, too.

7:09 Um why was there not a regime change despite the debilitating sanctions,

7:15 despite uh the administration taking out almost the entire top

7:19 layer of leadership on the first day of the war?

7:24 They were being told, apparently according to reports by Israel,

7:27 there was a a decent likelihood that people would rise up.

7:31 Freedom Freedom loving Iranians would would rise

7:33 up and they would overthrow uh the IRGC.

7:37 That didn't happen.

7:39 Why?

7:40 And what's happened now uh to your point?

7:43 That was complete nonsense.

7:45 It was it was never going to happen.

7:46 I will literally there millions and millions

7:49 of people who support the government.

7:50 There are millions of people who are critics of the government,

7:53 but they do not want to change their government.

7:56 They don't want a foreign country coming in and changing their government.

7:58 They've had that and they've had that for years.

8:00 I mean everybody knows about Mosaddegh in '53,

8:03 but it happened in '41, it happened in '25.

8:06 The British and the US have done this over and over and over again.

8:09 And Iranians in Iran know this and they know nothing good comes out of it.

8:13 So that's what that's why it didn't happen.

8:16 And again, with the result of killing all these top leaders,

8:21 what they've done is revitalized the Iranian government actually,

8:25 which is I think what they didn't want.

8:26 It was really sort of a decaying gerontocracy.

8:29 And I think Ayatollah Khamenei knew that and they

8:32 probably just left himself out to be to be martyred.

8:37 And you know, look, the reality is anyone

8:39 who's worked in a bureaucracy knows that DOD

8:42 there's probably 2,000 people who are better equipped

8:44 to be the Secretary of Defense than Pete Buttigieg.

8:47 And State Department there's probably 1,000

8:49 people who are better than Marco Rubio.

8:51 So literally when people say, "Oh,

8:53 now there's the B team or the C team or the D team." Actually,

8:56 they're better people.

8:57 They're younger, they're smarter.

8:59 And I don't know that that's what the United

9:01 States wanted because now they're really dealing with an adversary.

9:04 So, you know, it's just like the misinformation

9:07 from the media and the government is just crazy.

9:09 Like there were zero refugees, right?

9:12 You Imagine 33,000 bombs in 31 provinces in the country.

9:16 Nobody left the country.

9:17 All the borders are open.

9:19 Iranians don't need a visa to Armenia.

9:21 They're great allies.

9:23 Turkey, no visa, you could cross anytime.

9:26 All the borders remained basically during the bombing they remained normal.

9:31 You know, there's truck traffic and then people going on vacation.

9:34 And I talked to plenty of them.

9:35 I was on all the borders, and there was nobody who said,

9:38 you know, there's some giant revolution about to occur in Iran.

9:42 Uh so, last night on Emily's Megan Kelly Network program,

9:48 there was a really fascinating call-in

9:50 from an American responding to Trump's war in Iran.

9:54 We're going to play that and get your get your thoughts on it.

9:56 Let's roll A8.

9:58 Hi.

9:58 Um first of all, I want to say that I voted for Trump three times.

10:01 I'm a hardcore supporter of his, but I'm

10:04 extremely disappointed in what he is doing.

10:07 He said blow them to smithereens.

10:09 He needs to come back here to America and take care of us, the American people.

10:13 I mean, I would never I can't believe that out of my mouth

10:16 I'm saying these things cuz I am completely disappointed with him.

10:20 He's going to lose and he's going to we're

10:22 going to lose the election in November, all of them.

10:24 Trust me.

10:25 If he continues this route.

10:27 The gas prices are so high.

10:30 You know, working two jobs, we can still barely make it.

10:33 My son and my grandkids are never going to be able to own a home.

10:37 I mean, this is not the way it's supposed to go, you know?

10:41 I don't understand what's going on.

10:42 I had a friend who had a business and the tariffs killed my friend's business.

10:46 They've been in business for 40 years.

10:48 I don't know what happened to Trump,

10:50 but this is not the same person I voted for, and if

10:53 he doesn't I'm giving him personally till the end of May.

10:57 Mhm.

10:57 If we're still in this mess and gas prices have not come down,

11:01 and he hasn't blown the Iranian people to I mean,

11:04 he needs to get in there and do destroy them.

11:06 As simple as that.

11:07 If he doesn't do that, I will never vote for him again,

11:10 and I will never believe a Republican.

11:12 I mean, he's really damaging.

11:14 I can't believe I'm saying this.

11:16 That was Connie in Las Vegas said you can't make it working two jobs,

11:20 that her sons will never be able to afford a home.

11:23 She also went on in the call, this is on Sirius XM,

11:26 to say that she was supposed to retire in 2 years,

11:29 doesn't think she's ever going to retire.

11:32 She said she was giving Trump,

11:33 you heard this at the end of the call, until the end of May.

11:35 Her perspective was you either have to I

11:37 think she said something like just blow the Iranians.

11:40 She was It was like another four or five minute call,

11:43 but something about how blow the Iranians and get out of there.

11:46 Blow them up and get out of there.

11:47 But in the the rest of the call

11:49 it sounded like she was talking about the government, the IRGC specifically.

11:52 And Ryan, I don't know if you had anything to add on the question for Ahmed.

11:56 No.

11:57 Um yeah.

11:58 Uh I guess the other question would be for Omar Khan,

12:02 um related to this you you know you've done

12:04 you've done this relief work all around the world.

12:07 You said that there were no you know

12:09 no refugee There's no refugee crisis in Iran.

12:11 What about humanitarian aid?

12:13 Like how are they doing um you know how did you offer any kind of aid?

12:17 What's what's been the reaction there?

12:19 Yeah, I checked out what the situation was and of course it's tough,

12:22 but uh my contacts through the Turkish Red Crescent who are working

12:27 in uh Iran said basically the stuff that you're sending to Lebanon and Gaza,

12:32 just keep sending it to Lebanon and Gaza.

12:33 We we're getting by and that's kind of again

12:36 the opposite story of what you're being told.

12:39 Um you know you're you're people heard the people on these people

12:42 on the media that show up from these fake think tanks

12:44 that are like you know people are collapsing and the place is

12:46 collapsing and it's falling apart and uh that's just not the case.

12:50 I mean we did hit thousands

12:51 of hospitals and schools and civilian infrastructure,

12:54 but somehow they're they're piecing it

12:56 back together and there's no urgent appeal.

12:59 The reality is 5 million people were internally displaced.

13:02 So you know the difference between internally displaced and the refugees,

13:04 the refugees are one that leaves their country.

13:07 These people lost their homes, but they didn't want to leave the country.

13:11 I mean they're voting you know people often vote with their feet.

13:13 So that's another sort of data point that you know things are they're not okay,

13:19 but people want to stay, right?

13:21 And so yeah, I've been told multiple times uh I'll look

13:25 into it and no one's really said we have an urgent appeal like

13:29 for example with Lebanon I have an urgent appeal from the Catholic

13:31 Church and even up to the Vatican where their clinics and hospitals are

13:36 overwhelmed but in Iran no such thing which is wild considering

13:40 the amount the tonnage from land sea and air the bombs and missiles

13:44 that that that that landed on Iran and it it's to Connie's

13:48 point look at me the EOD budget they wanted to 1.5 trillion now

13:52 it was 1 trillion and the reality is if you ask any

13:55 like sober-minded long-time DOD employee like what should the DOD budget be

14:00 really to keep America safe the answer is like 500 maximum is

14:04 what you'll get so now they want to it's already double that now

14:06 it'll be triple that like the things we could do with that money

14:10 you know we could actually have a real education system or hospitals

14:14 and schools and our airports can not look like we're a developing

14:18 world country I mean this is obviously the health care you know so

14:21 obviously she's she's got a point on that I mean it's

14:24 a misallocation of resources that's just brutal Mhm and like you said earlier

14:30 Ahmed you go around the world people don't want war people don't

14:34 want war Yeah no normal citizen wants to be at war like you

14:37 don't meet anyone like so I met a truck driver who just

14:40 exited Iran in Armenia and he was crying I said are you okay

14:43 and he says you know why are they bombing us like you

14:46 know what did we do to them and I I really had no

14:49 answer for him because he's like can you tell me what they

14:52 what did we do to them why are they doing this and you

14:55 just feel like normal people just don't want any part

14:58 of this and there's got to be a better way than just 24/7 air

15:04 strikes like for example I know someone at US Transcom and they

15:07 told me we've done over 4,000 airlifts to Israel like I think

15:13 the Israeli government has said we've done 403 full of weapons since February

15:17 28th I mean 4,000 is just a crazy number The planes a day,

15:22 like what a waste of resources and which leads to people dead.

15:27 Like, what is that?

15:29 Mhm.

15:29 Well, hopefully this is it uh for the foreseeable future.

15:33 Uh I'm Ed Khan.

15:34 Um thank you so much for being here.

15:36 Really appreciate it.

15:37 Thanks Emily.

15:38 Thanks Ryan.

15:38 Take care.

15:39 Be well.

15:39 All right.

15:39 You too.

15:40 Yeah, we have good news, I think.

15:41 I hope so.

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